Most mean inductee? 5. Probably 1993 (Doors & CCR), or else the first two classes (lots of 50's/early 60's favorites). I have seen that. move to 3: Lou Reed: 7/10 Posted by theAMAZINGcool on Friday, 04/19/2019 @ 07:36am. 3/27 Downloaded from qualifiedplanadvisors.dev.trozzolo.com on by @guest high school, college, the Olympics & the National Basketball Association. 210. "Swept For You Baby" The Sylvers, The Blenders, The Tamlins (as Sweat For You Baby). Up 2-0 in the Western Finals and riding a 20-game winning streak, the seemingly invincible Spurs are demolished by Kevin Durant and a Thunder team that peaked at the perfect time. "Who's Loving You" The Jackson 5, En Vogue, Terence Trent D'Arby, Brenda Holloway, The Supremes, The Temptations, Honey Cone, Stevie B., Archie Bell & the Drells, Nikka Costa. 1998 Jelly Roll Morton Little Richard Weirdest: Frank Zappa by one point over Michael Jackson. The Book of Basketball - Bill Simmons 2010-12-07 . Posted by Donovan on Tuesday, 10/21/2014 @ 23:03pm, move to 4: Depeche Mode, T.Rex, Nine Inch Nails, and Whitney are all incredibly low. Roy Orbison: 10/10 Favorite induction year: 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2006, 2013. For some reason they never get as much credit as they deserve (especially when compared to other Motown artists like Marvin Gaye, The Supremes and The Temptations). Isaac Hayes: 7/10 Foo Fighters-1, but since they're a first ballot HOFer 2 might be more befitting But I was thinking of Dr. John too. Elvin Hayes. 118. Level 4 Dwight Howard [from Level 1, below McGrady]. Run - DMC: 10/10 Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 01/29/2015 @ 19:58pm. The Smiths Marvin Gaye If you want to argue he was a shitty teammate, fine, but on talent and resume, he belongs in the Top 50. -Hard to say. a lot of good years for inductions. 6. Eagles The architect of the Rock Hall, I.M. Paul Westphal, 90. Plebeian, Donna Summer (middle 3rd) 1999 Bob Wills & His Texas Playboys Sure, they influenced Green Day and some others. Paul Simon Kobe Bryant, 8. If no one here had an interest in anything earlier than the Beatles, I wouldn't be coming here to gush over Buddy Holly or Fats Waller. Tina Turner: 9/10 Despite the juvenile attacks, this argument you have made is much more interesting. T.Rex-Level 3 10. Among these are: The Who Parker had a 12 year run where he was never the best point guard in the league, but he might've been the most important. "I'll Try Something New" Diana Ross & the Supremes with the Temptations, Barbara McNair, A Taste of Honey, Spyder Turner (as an excerpt from his cover of "Stand By Me") "Choosey Beggar" Chazz Dixon, Debby Boone. Posted by Andrew on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 17:40pm, We need a space at the top for the Based God. Little Anthony: Influenced Donna Summer. It's fine, but it's more of a BS pod than a true sequel (I'm of the belief that Simmons sort of lost his passion when ESPN fired him for criticizing Goodell). Gene Pitney: 5/10 Somebody else played their brand of rock and roll around their time who was better. During a time period when Nirvana were pretty much single handedly destroying the metal scene, and metal kids were becoming grunge kids, they released the most iconic metal tune of all time, in an album that sold around 30 million copies. "The Tears of a Clown" La Toya Jackson, The Beat, The Rocking Chairs, The Re-Bops, Nnenna Freelon, The Flying Pickets, Caligula, Human Nature, Enuff Z'Nuff, Eumir Deodato, Brian Ray, Marc Cohn, Phil Collins. 8. Fats Domino. Heart: 1 So that doesn't really mean anything. Let me know if my analogies don't work as well. 8/10 = No Brainers it's 2019 and theAMAZINGcool is making a TRIUMPHANT return !!! Bill Simmons remembers the day when he learned "The Secret" of basketball from Hall of Famer Isiah Thomas, then built his New York Times no. No. Jeff Beck: 7/10 The Moody Blues "Love Machine" Wham!, Thelma Houston Duran Duran (Level 1 or 2) 159. 96. 1989 The Soul Stirrers 132. But Elvis Presley was known for his kindness and generosity (up to the mid-50's) 4/10 = Marginal I've got him in between Walton and Barry who also got a team over the top without any other presumed Pyramid guys, but didn't string together a run like the guys in Level 4 and Level 5. 32. Ray Allen [up from Level 1, below McAdoo]. (It's because he covered a lot of country songs in his career.) The Cars 95. Steely Dan: 8/10 I meant *borderline. 2/10 = Failure 6/10 = Decent Artists 2/10 = Failure James Brown. For example, in the Aug. 16, 2018 episode, Simmons told Curry his latest ranking of #16-#27 and had Curry at #24. Bonnie Raitt: 7/10 Favorites: The Beatles, Elton John, Queen, CSN, Linda Ronstadt, Cat Stevens, The Beach Boys, Ruth Brown, Joni Mitchell. Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 09:54am. Dr. John: 5/10 Buddy Guy: 8/10 "Save Me" The Undertones 1990 Louis Armstrong Bill Haley (and His Comets) My occasional communication efforts within this forum is generally framed around acknowledging my own biases and attempting to subvert them for more rationale dialog. 3/10 = Mediocre I know, they did it with the strength of ONE album. Posted by Jordan Einstein on Tuesday, 04/19/2022 @ 14:18pm, 2022 Nominees: Bill Cathcart WTOC TV 2014 1998 The Supremes: 10/10 The Jimi Hendrix Experience Nirvana and Radiohead belongs in the third. Donna Summer: 8/10 Michael Jackson, Sly Stone, George Clinton, Flava Flav, Prince, Frank Zappa, Dr. John, and Brian Wilson. 63. Dionne Warwick (Level 1), Posted by Jordan Einstein on Sunday, 04/24/2022 @ 13:54pm, Oh i have more adjustments: 106. 75. 2000 Billie Holiday The Who, The Kinks, Public Enemy, Sex Pistols and Muddy Waters "More Love" Kim Carnes, Paul Young, Barbara McNair, Mica Paris, The 5th Dimension, Rick Webb, Foster Sylvers. He's Level 4 by Isiah. Under no circumstances whatsoever, should AC/DC sit above Rush, period. 5/10 = Average/Borderline Dolly Parton: 9/10 Elton John (I would say second or third). Jackie Wilson 134. Little Richard (Level 5) Glory We are talking about Rock music here, right? "Whole Lotta Shakin' In My Heart (Since I Met You)" The Hellacopters, Marv Johnson. Most snubbed artist who is now an inductee (besides Rush and Alice Cooper*)? Outside of Madonna, 2008 was a stellar year. -Weirdest? Deep Purple a 1???" It's high time that we recognize their limitations as exactly that and take them down off the arbitrary pedestal they were perverse placed on. Joan Baez: 6/10 Rush 26. Randy Newman Meanest: Jerry Lee Lewis, Sid Vicious, Little Willie John. HARDLY !! I meant the DIRECT influence on later generations of rockers from people who were rockers themselves. Aside from that, I don't recall claiming that my shit doesn't stink; that would be very much unlike me. 15. Posted by Robert Henry on Monday, 07/31/2017 @ 11:11am, That's kinda easy for most part when analyzing the 2017 class - In the early 90s, by some weird quirk, the music press decided they were the great American band. Guns N' Roses weren't the most pleasant of acts. The Byrds: 10/10 2007 Righteous Brothers: 7/10 - Formatting might look weird, but I didn't want to take up crazy amounts of space. What seemed important 15 years ago may not seem as important now. Level 3 by Nash. Register for this free event . There needs to be slightly more room in the 5 space, cause Bowie is 100% a 5. Her induction was more important as a recognition of her ability to rise back up without her abusive husband that it was about the quality and impact of her solo catalog. Black Sabbath 1988 Woody Guthrie Posted by DarinRG on Sunday, 03/10/2013 @ 00:04am. Shrewd businessman, but civilized. Recently Updated. Not to be too much of a Ramones basher, but look at the bands they rated above. I actually think that every act up there is almost exactly where they should be. Lionel Richie: 6/10 The Shirelles Kingdom of Heaven Now I'm remembering the time I went to the Country Hall of Fame and they had an exhibit on Ray Charles. -This is covered under "most civilized", don't you think? 1990 Charlie Christian Bobby Darin: 5/10 David Bowie: 10/10 3. 209. Percy Sledge: Influenced Al Green and the Allman Brothers Band. The success of the Miracles actually launched the Motown Records label, and, according to Motown Records founder, Berry Gordy, without the Miracles,the Motown Record Corporation would not have been possible." This website really needs to update the rock hall pyramid. Ike & Tina Turner Established in 1957 by the Amateur Softball Association (ASA), the National Softball Hall of Fame and Museum is a permanent shrine to the men and women who played the game so well. Rating Numbers: 136. As for who I think next year will be: Nirvana, Deep Purple (long overdue, though I wouldn't complain if KISS went instead), some combination of The Cure/Depeche Mode/The Smiths, N.W.A., Chic, Posted by Sam on Thursday, 04/11/2013 @ 12:25pm. Your favorite inductees (You can pick at least 7)? Adande. Deep Purple (Level 2) Any content deemed inappropriate or offensive may be edited and/or deleted. If that was your point, it wasn't well made previously; but was overall well stated in this latest response. He was one of the first rock and rollers to incorporate politics and social issues and he mostly did that during his solo career. "Whole Lotta Shakin' In My Heart (Since I Met You)" The Hellacopters, Marv Johnson. And I agree, Posted by Roy on Thursday, 07/28/2016 @ 22:10pm. "That's What Love Is Made Of" Michael Jackson, Bobby Vee, Choker Campbell, The Magicians. 7. Here is Simmons' explanation of the idea . But every 15 that are added should mean one more to Level 5, two more to 4, and so on. Dezmond, I won't go into a full-blown rant about my distaste for Neil Young, but I'll leave you with this nugget: I can generally be objective about artists whose music I'm not overly fond of (Frank Sinatra, The Beatles, Miles Davis, Bob Dylan). Bob Seger: 7/10 Seriously? Journey Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 05/21/2021 @ 16:15pm, Posted by Chris on Friday, 05/21/2021 @ 16:21pm. Little Richard, Metallica, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, AC/DC, and Van Halen would all qualify Dave DeBusschere, 52. For an Early Influence, I would pick Cab Calloway or The Ravens. Sure. 1987 Louis Jordan The Velvet Underground Bobby Darin Simmons just completed his BOB 2.0 podcast, and during numerous episodes he will list the specific new Pyramid rankings of 5-10 guys in a row, but I'm curious if anyone has heard all the podcasts & has the new order written down? Designated for marginal acts who are considered "Borderline Hall of Famers," either because of the Zombies Factor (great career, not long enough) or the Bon Jovi Factor (very good for a long time, rarely great). Pink Floyd The first part of his career was spent as the alpha, the best player on a title team, and then a distraught MVP candidate surrounded by a bad team. Good point, Bill G. Let's also remember Percy Mayfield's 1950 blues classic Please Send Me Someone to Love, with its plea for tolerance and unity among the peoples of the world. "Here I Go Again" Chazz Dixon, Carey Bell, A.J. I thought they were dull and uninteresting musically, and they couldn't keep my attention long enough to listen to the lyrics. Posted by Handsome Bob on Thursday, 05/16/2019 @ 23:04pm. Rush (middle 4th) This isn't a situation where being part of a psuedo-dynasty elevates him up 10-15 spots. Russell, 2. Nine Inch Nails-4, Posted by Plebian on Monday, 03/2/2020 @ 02:11am, what i think the 2020 inductees should be in: From 2016: 1 bestselling book around the premise in 2009.. I think that eventually Rush will be recognized, in the future, as a 5th tier band. First, I would tack on some lesser known blues and R&B singers like Blind Lemon Jefferson, W.C. Either Sam Cooke, Fats Domino, Roy Orbison, or anyone from Motown (remember, they were taught how to move about at high society functions). Frank Zappa: 9/10 Talking Heads: 9/10 However, when an artist offends me so deeply that I can only summon feelings of outright hatred for their music, it's almost impossible for me to maintain any kind of objectivity. There are a lot of critic's darlings that fade over time. 2Pac is probably Level 2. Frankie Lymon & The Teenagers: 6/10 Replace "Were they just dominant at times?" "Doggone Right" Bobby Davis. Kawhi's been great for three seasons. Ricky Nelson: 9/10 The Hall of Fame honors graduates of the Army Reserve Officers' Training Corps who have . Albert King: 1, Posted by Classic Rock on Monday, 02/11/2013 @ 20:53pm. It's pathetic. 12. Prince: 10/10 Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid ABA All-Time Team NBA & ABA All-Star Game All-Star Game Selections by Player All-NBA and All-NBA Team Selections by Player All-Defensive Team Selections by Player NBA Referee Awards Greg Willard Spirit Award NCAA Season Awards AP Player of the Year Award John R. Wooden Award 1987 Was the Harden trade the NBAs biggest what if? ever? 10/10 = Immortals, Legends & Icons John Lennon Depeche Mode: 8/10 Most unworthy inductee: Percy Sledge, Prince, Madonna, Randy Newman, Laura Nyro. 220. Patti Smith 4. The Dells If Nick Drake ever gets in, he wins hands down. -Loudest? The Clash: 10/10 A couple others like AC/DC Huh, forgot that the pyramids criteria was "how well does astrodog know the artist" Posted by GFW on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 14:00pm, I'd simply move all the artists out of the 5th region, and sub-let a little space for myself. Dire Straits Not quite sure. I have no idea where he might've finished if his career hadn't been cut short due to the health issue. Bob Dylan. Fleetwood Mac: 8/10 2009 The Drifters: 10/10 I still listen to modern rock/indie radio at times, but for the most part, I start losing sustained interest around 1998 or '9. The Dells: 5/10 This is Pt 1. Proper evaluation of influence can certainly be biased by opinion; but overall it is rather easy to research to see historically the impact an artist had by tracking musicians that copied them, or directly cite them as major influences. "From Head to Toe" Elvis Costello, Chris Clark 11. Dire Straits - 1 Unless the answer to this is the Invisible Band, you've got a problem here. The pyramid is done by the site administration while the rankings are done by site users, so it's more a case of differing opinions. The Doobie Brothers: 6/10 And in each role the actor shines with tools he says hes gained from poetry, his family, and yes, even clown class. 156. Will you always remember seeing them in concert, even when you're 80 years old and peeing on yourself? The Notorious B.I.G.-Level 3 They were rarely acclaimed critically and/or commercially. The Four Tops Send a Message. Pearl Jam Dolly Parton-Level 2-The only caveat is that she isn't strictly rock 'n' roll, like Miles Davis, Nina Simone or Joan Baez, but with songs like Jolene, Coat of Many Colors, 9 to 5, I Will Always Love You etc, I think she deserves this position Chuck Berry: 10/10 79. Dennis Johnson, 61. You missed question #5 Dennis Rodman. Here are my responses: "I Like It Like That" (Miracles song)- Bobby Vee, Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels. 2009 Wanda Jackson Posted by Tony on Friday, 08/8/2014 @ 17:19pm, Overrated, or too high on the pyramid: Ramones, Elton John, Little Richard, The Clash, Elvis Costello, Aerosmith, Blondie, Alice Cooper, Genesis. Posted by Andrew on Sunday, 05/4/2014 @ 22:12pm. Overall personality-wise, I'll say Prince. The Jackson 5: 9/10 depeche mode - 2 or 3 Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 10/23/2018 @ 14:25pm. By choosing I Accept, you consent to our use of cookies and other tracking technologies. "Swept For You Baby" The Sylvers, The Blenders, The Tamlins (as Sweat For You Baby). A Tribe Called Quest (Level 2 or 3) "(You Can) Depend On Me" The Temptations, The Supremes, Mary Wells, Brenda Holloway, Barbara Mason. Smokey Robinson & The Miracles: 10/10 The Everly Brothers Neil Young The Doors: 10/10 3) THE FOUR TOPS at # 79 Probably one of the innumerable sissy singer-songwriters (Joni Mitchell and James Taylor come to mind immediately). I assumed you meant the bottom, but I don't wanna put words in your mouth. The Band But as long as they are moved up to the 4th tier, I will not be very disappointed. Sex Pistols: 9/10 Doobie Brothers-5 a) metal is actually such a huge genre and scene, easily the largest and most enduring underground music scene. I also feel EXACTLY the same about John Lennon. 90. Did the management of this establishment put you up to this? N.W.A: 9/10 Albert King (lower 3rd) 5. Well, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Museum in Cleveland is already shaped like a pyramid 2, so it was only natural to take Simmons' baseball idea and apply it to rock and roll.. People will still be listening to their music, hundreds, if not thousands of years from now. I don't see Nine Inch Nails. Most civilized: Cat, Smokey, Bruce If not them, then Hendrix, probably. Level 2: The Lion King, Posted by Andrew on Wednesday, 10/30/2013 @ 20:04pm. Not too many others, outside of one or two really obvious choices. Everyone else- Level 1, Posted by dank on Friday, 12/18/2015 @ 18:47pm, My guess at where the inductees will end up on this pyramid: 52. Posted by Follower on Monday, 01/7/2019 @ 21:17pm. Journey: Influenced Bon Jovi. Good pyramid. Electric Light Orchestra- 3 And I'd love to invent a 0 just for Def Leppard. 41. 6. Bill G., Skip to primary content. 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