My first IVF cycle I was on the antagonist with stims started on Day 3.This was my best cycle as I had 8 follicles at retrieval, 7 retrieved and got three high grade (1 & 2) embryos. It will workjust have faith! Hi. I also did ganirelix during this time. Are you sure you want to block this member? Estrogen Priming Protocol- EPP Experiences - Infertility Inspire Finding a Resolution for Infertility Infertility at 40+ Finding a Resolution for Infertility Infertility Support Community in Partnership with RESOLVE Join Inspire Create a Post Estrogen Priming Protocol- EPP Experiences drgolfermd Aug 14, 2015 4:53 AM Dear All: However other had mature egg and we did Icsi by it didn't grow from there. HiI'm new. November 8 - we're having twins:) Wow!!! I dont know as much about micro flare. Pre-treatment is known to improve the response of the ovary to the stimulation cycle and also reduces the risk of ovarian cyst formation. I did estrogen and testosterone priming on my second ivf because I was oversuppressed during my first cycle. They monitor the follicle size and u do the trigger still so the know when to retrieve. I hope your's goes lots better than mine! For this reason, the antagonist protocol is a good option for those women most susceptible to OHSS. I did have a decent response on the MDL and 100% fertilization with two good 5 day blasts. What affect did the epp have on your follicles? The idea is to give your body about 5-7 days of Estrogen Priming. Transfer was canceled. I'm back from my appt and we are going with EPP. How did it go with the EPP? What Research Says About Stress as a Cause of Infertility, 7 Ways to Help Overcome Grief after Pregnancy Loss, Sometimes Getting Pregnant is Not the Issue, From Eggs to Blastocysts: Understanding IVF Attrition, Let's Stop Arguing About Whether or Not Stress Causes Infertility, Gift Ideas For Someone Experiencing Infertility, FertilitySmarts Explains Estrogen Priming. Copyright 2023
Is estrogen priming the same thing as using BCPs to suppress? But I will be asking the best hardcore questions I can come up with about EPP. The results are below and as you can see, success rates do seem to drop off after 300 IUs per day of gonadotropin. Dont know what. They said they would put me in the 21 day long protocol. 6 responded, 5 retrieved, 3 fertilized normally, put all 3 back in at 3dpt - I am currently 27 weeks with one baby girl. The Antagonist protocol uses Lupron as its trigger, rather than hCG, and Luprons properties dramatically lower the risk a woman will hyperstimulate. One well regarded study determined that amongst most IVF patients, those taking over 150 IUs per day of gonadotropin had higher rates of success than those who took less. I'm not sure what your stats are, but Check seems to have had some good success with women over 40 who have high FSH, so I'd say go with him. I also did ganirelix during this time. Looking for info/success stories with Estrogen priming protocol with DOR. IVF#4 November 2009 - one embryo survived to day 3 transfer - BFN Or are there different levels of this? The deadline for sending in seeds was October 15th, but there are still plenty of ways to get involved. Ultimately there are two protocol strategies doctors will use: either the Long Agonist or Antagonist protocols. Started doing the patches 10 days before my period was scheduled to start. Northwestern Medicine. In some cases, priming may not be required. IVF Compared To Other Fertility Treatments, The Steps and Decisions In The IVF Process, Pregnancy Testing, Early Pregnancy and Delivery, The Impact of Donor Eggs, Donor Sperm or A Gestational Surrogate, The Impact of A Patients Condition or Diagnosis, Fertilization With Conventional Insemination vs. ICSI, Which Patients Benefit From Which Approach, Growing Embryos To Cleavage or Blastocyst Stage, Exceptions Where Cleavage Stage Makes Sense, PGT-A and PGS Genetic Screening of Embryos, Benefits of PGT-A (or PGS) Genetic Testing, The Negatives of PGT-A (or PGS) Genetic Screening. This drug works indirectly by prompting the brain to produce more gonadotropin to signal the ovaries to grow follicles -- so it's not directly stimulating the ovary. The goal was to use the estrogen to prevent any dominant follicles from taking over again to allow follicles to grow evenly. However, given some of the additional features for each protocol (for example, the duration of suppression), some patients might find one preferable to the others. Our last cycle was such a bust! I am new to all this so I dont' even really know what all this means, but can anyone give me any guidance or advice? Cool.let me know what he says if you would please. But I am sure they know what they are doing at CCRM. Good luck. 1) focus on the quality (not quantity) of eggs. Went to retrieval anyway, did ICSI, but it didn't fertilize. Several functions may not work. No, IVF 5 was the estrogen priming. Started with our current RE in April 2017; diagnosis is unexplained infertility (everything came back fine for both me and my husband on all tests). There are several methods of pre-treatment that involves using either a combined oral contraceptive pill, progestogen or estrogen. I have been doing some research and reading and I was reading that for older patients, a different protocol where less meds are used is usually recommend. unfortunately, it was just an age issue, which i knew all along, but i had to try. Best of luck. I then did 450 gonal-F and 150 menopur for 12 or 13 days, using ganirelix as well. Collection was yesterday and they retrieved 9 eggs. I starts on day 1 of my cycle for 25-26 days of estrace.. Not sure why.. undefined will no longer be visible to you including posts, replies, and photos. My next cycle will also be EPP. 2 expanded blasts on Day 6 were not biospied. To conclude, in the group of patients . In the case of the fresh transfers, you can clearly see a similar effect to what investigators found above: success rates drop with more drug. I know you ladies all have your own stuff going on and I feel terrible asking but I dont know who else to askBarb, penny, joy, anyone else, Ive read that an estrogen priming protocol is good for DOR women, do you know if this is true? So I think I was on estrogen for about a couple weeks then started stimming (antagonist protocol). Will let you know how things go from here. I think if I hadn't EPP, I wouldn't have had to stim so high. It was my best in terms of numbers and success. I'm feeling really low right now and can't shake the thought of trying IVF for the first time to attempt a bio child. Today, most IVF cycles use a frozen transfer whereby embryos are frozen and transferred at least a month after the retrieval. DS was born June 22nd, 2007!!!!! Lupton trigger. The combination of drugs and their dosing is known as a protocol and while it may seem like there are a dizzying number of protocols, the reality is there are only a few core options. ER sept 29th - 11 follicles, 9 eggs retrieved However, the data doesnt bare that out. I did a phone consult with Sher and he suggested the conversion protocol to me as well. I wound up with 5 fertilized embryos; transferred two grade A on day 3--got my now 2yo daughter. Though I had 4 or 5 follicles to begin with, only ended up with one. I understand why they want to suppress ovulation but it just doesn't seem like a good idea in someone over 40? Group Leaders communicate with staff moderators and escalate potential violations for review, but they dont moderate discussions. 2005-2023Everyday Health, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. As a result, the Antagonist strategy is generally preferred for women at especially high risk of developing OHSS, namely women with PCOS, younger women, women with high AMH or AFCs, African American women, and those who produced a high number of eggs in a recent cycle. My friends did this estrogen priming protocol and highly recommend it and were successful. Looking for info/success stories with Estrogen priming protocol with DOR. Interesting that they are only putting you on it for 7 days.. EPP results: 17 retrieved, 13 mature, 8 fertilized with PICSI, 2 hatching blasts on day 6 have been biopised. This hormone is injected by the patient and directly instigates the ovaries to grow more follicles. Beta 1117 Any 43+ Have Successful IVF with Own Egg? Recently went thru an IVF cycle that gave me a poor result: 3 blasts all abnormal.RE suggested BCP for 21 days followed by lupron. Still seems to have had plenty of effect though. The doctor just wants to make sure you dont release an egg while getting your body ready for a retrieval or transfer. They thought they saw 4 follicles, but were only able to collect 2. That sounds nuts to me, but my doctor said that it is normal. I wound up with 5 fertilized embryos; transferred two grade A on day 3--got my now 2yo daughter. Had three chromosomal miscarriages last year, moved on to IVF with intention of genetic testing but had to cancel cycle a few days in, E2 never got above 36 while on max dose of 300 Gonol f and 300 Menopur. Very helpful! Cost: $1,000. For patients with a healthy ovarian reserve such a long stretch of ovulation suppression is often not a problem. Find advice, support and good company (and some stuff just for fun). I might have ovulated rather than had empty follicles. I hav, My last ivf cycle was cancelled/converted to IUI due to being over suppressed by birth control pills. My doc started me on estrogen patch, one patch changing every 3 days until my period for 5 days and I just took it off and will be takingClomiphene after a day of taking off the patch, then after a day start stim. In the next section well walk you through the mechanics of each protocol. Are you wanting to learn more about the IVF process? xx, Oww Hun, please dont worry about me, look after yourself, here if you need a listening ear xxx. BFN. Typically, a poor responder is someone who meets two of three criteria: they have collected three or fewer eggs on a previous cycle, is over age 40, or who has a diminished ovarian reserve (antral follicle count below 5 or an AMH below below 0.5). I was not informed of this ahead of timeand was pretty upset that that they threw away something that might have had a chance. There are 2 - 3 core protocols: the Long Agonist, Antagonist and Flare. 1st IVF/ICSI age 41 : Gonal F 300; 3 eggs; 2 fertilised; transfer day 5; BFN Hi there. The educational health content on What To Expect is reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts to be up-to-date and in line with the latest evidence-based medical information and accepted health guidelines, including the medically reviewed What to Expect books by Heidi Murkoff. Clomid is cheap, easy to take (oral), drives less risk of OHSS, but is less effective. I was on bcps and Lupron the first ivf. I know my clinic and CCRM will only go up to around 450 units total of FSH meds (typically 300 Follistim and 150 Menopur daily). Hello thanks for sharing. Ovarian Stimulation Baseline Ultrasound The Finding a Resolution for Infertility Support Community connects patients, families, friends and caregivers for support and inspiration. Froze 3. I was at the max stim dose to get the response I did. Best of luck x Reply Quote When I went to my clinic and they said they want to suppress ovulation, I asked why bc I dont ovulate! I am praying this makes a huge difference. Estrogen is administered during the luteal phase of the previous menstrual cycle to "prime" the FSH receptors which enhances the response to FSH. Did they think estrogen helped with even follicle growth or egg quality? Confirmed. Dwarf Mr Snow, Fred's Tie Dye, Saucy Mary, Sweet Scarlet, Kangaroo Paw Green, Idaho Gem and Banana Toes are just a few of the varieties one gardener is growing in a 4x8 bed of "bulletproof" tomatoes. I did that back in the beginning of the year but I ovulated in my own and terrified it might happen again. Before starting the pills, we need to wait until you are in the correct stage of your menstrual cycle (the luteal phase). Wow that did make a huge difference for you! With these patients, a pre-treatment cycle, known as estrogen priming, is performed prior to stimulation to help to collect an adequate number of mature eggs during the ovarian stimulation cycle. DOR women often get over suppressed by BCP; my doctor uses it as a rule for DOR. - Baseline u/s and b/w. I just had my ER last week: stimmed for 13 days, started ganerilix on stim day 8, retreived 7 eggs, 3 were mature, 3 fertilized, 1 blastocyst was frozen today on day 5 and I have 2 morulas that will bhopefully be frozen tomorrow as long as they are blastocysts. This drugs known as the trigger shot. He also said he would start with BCPs to suppress ovulation- he explained why, but at my age that just doesn't sound like a good idea to be suppressing anything. Estrogen priming is a protocol used during in vitro fertilization (IVF) to facilitate a more gradual and coordinated growth of follicles in the ovary in women with diminished ovarian reserve (DOR). Time is of the essence and whatever information we have, we are happy to share to help you! Hi there. Im over 40 and did estrogen priming for a bunch of cycles and a Lupron stop. Good luck! Estrogen priming has worked both times for me. Around 50-60% of couples find success with IUI after 5 cycles, which is about a 10-20% success rate per cycle. I just had a consultation with an RE he recommended a "estrogen priming micro-flare lupron" protocol. This typically happens with conventional insemination where the egg and the sperm are placed in the same culture environment for fertilization
Priming is used to improve the number of mature eggs that can be obtained during the process. Doing mild IVF - and wondering how that is going to work as the test today was that i only had one follicle visible - Any idea what to expect? I did EPP with my 3rd cycle and it didn't help. I felt icky too the first day of starting estrace but I think it's also because they put me on a zpac to kill any infections and that made me sick my fingers are crossed that your period doesn't come and you can start cycling. Estrogen priming also allows the patient and clinicians to schedule the ovarian stimulation cycle and the timing of egg retrieval. I did EPP, using a climara patch every other day starting day 8 after ovulation until period came. It's not the same for everyone over 40. The protocol can also be preceded by the use of BCPs even if you have DOR. Best of luck to you. Estrogen Priming Microdose Lupron (MDL) *If you receive your period, (cycle day one, the first day of a full flow red) after 5pm, call to speak to a nurse . I will have retrieval hopefully this weekend and will let you know what happens. Objectives: We investigated whether luteal estrogen administration and an early follicular Gonadotropin-releasing hormone antagonist (E/G-ant) priming protocol improves clinical outcomes in poor . My story: I'm 34, DH 32. As you may recall in the Revelli and Yousef studies, 150 IUs per day of gonadotropin were used, which is well higher than most things marketed as mini-stimulation approaches, and any natural (no gonadotropin) approach. Starting CD21, I was applying Vivelle patch every other day until my cycle started. As you can see below, the odds of success (green line) continue to rise as more eggs are retrieved, until about 15 - 20 eggs, at which point the odds of success stop climbing and the risk of developing ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome, or OHSS, (pink line) skyrockets. I think you both are at Cornell (were) with this estrogen priming protocol will you try again with them, and request not to do estrogen priming? On the other hand, the Long Agonist protocol cant use Lupron as the trigger because it already deploys Lupron elsewhere. We are OOP as well. That could be why they are decreasing your Follistim too. Was wondering since your AMH was good and FSH, why did they recommend the Estrogen priming protocol for you? I had 5 follicles but only one matured so I was converted to IUI which failed. Long time reader, first time poster. me: 37 Oh yeah that could have been it or a combo! i read everywhere it's for "poor responders". Its effective, but expensive, and raises the risk of OHSS. Candice maybe11 129 Dec 08, 2009 #3 Hi, 2. Ideally, between 15 - 20 mature eggs would be retrieved, though getting a number that high is uncommon. Did not cover diagnostics like doppler test (40 copay but insurance might have covered this), communicable testing ($400 per person), and specialty meds . SG usually sticks to their protocol for the first round, then if it fails, they'll start customizing. There are a number of drugs that can be tacked onto the beginning of a cycle that may increase the odds of success. Today, were seeing more well-respected doctors choosing to compliment lower dose of gonadotropin with clomid or letrozole in this group. But not all patients respond equally to ovarian stimulation using these hormones. Ganirelix is contraindicated in pregnancy. However, that information will still be included in details such as numbers of replies. ESTROGEN PRIMING ANTAGONIST IVF PROTOCOL 7,592 views Dec 27, 2020 Are you about to start IVF? Surprise spontaneous just 7 months postpartum while still breastfeeding!!! If you did it did you have success, what is your situation, did you do pills or patches and for how long, etc.? In my case, antral follicle count is very poor, but RE decides to proceed. Omnitrope/HGH pricing and protocol question? Avery & Sydney born June 12/11 at 30w1d. I think you should ask your doctor though to make sure.Again, here is what happened to my protocolCycle day 1 - PeriodCycle day 24 (7 days post ovulation) - Start Estrace Cycle day 1 - Period Cycle day 2 - Last Estrace pill Cycle day 3 Blood work & ultrasound; antral follicle count. we did another one without BCPs and that also failed. I am curious what anyone's experience has been with EPP. I did estrogen priming after my first Ivf cycle ended in mc (nothing to freeze) & my 2nd cycle was canceled bc I wasn't responding well to stims. . Only 2 drugs during stim and finally got one good pgs tested embryo!!! OHSS can be both painful and dangerous. As you can see below, amongst women with PCOS, the Antagonist protocol drives comparable success rates but with far lower risk of hyperstimulation. Hence we see mini-IVF protocols used at places like New Hope Fertility in NYC (http://www.newhopefertility.com/?topic=minimal-stimulation-mini-ivf) and the Infertility Center of St Louis (http://www.infertile.com/closlook/biograph.htm); and, Hello, it's 1 week since last patch. Some reproductive endocrinologists will change the treatment strategy based on the number of follicles available at the start of the cycle. Create an account or log in to participate. The stim phase was just like a usual antagonist cycle. They are generally used for suppression in Long Lupron Protocols. Froze 3. Trying concieve since 40 Just not sure what type of protocol would be best. But there is one more protocol to consider: a flare cycle. Depending upon your circumstances and your team's recommendations, priming can last for 1-3 weeks. Some people prefer the term Diminished Ovarian Reserve or Low Egg Reserve for patients who meet this criteria, as the ovarian response to medications for this group is not always necessarily poor, but rather is simply expected to be lower at their given baseline. Both were immature. day 1 of cycle/protocol: (day 2 of menses): cetrotide 0.125 mg subcutaneously 4 estradot patches (estradot patches to be stopped when lead follicle was greater or equal to 1.5 cm) days 2 and 3 of cycle: 600 iu gonal f 0.125 mg cetrotide days 4 - 6 of cycle: 525 iu gonal f 0.125 mg cetrotide days 7 - 11 of cycle: 225 iu gonal f 0.125 cetrotide My first aIVF cycle was cx'd , due to poor/slow response and was probably due to the Birth control pills and lupron. I'm 36 & TTC 2 yrs. I also did estrogen priming with the mini. I'm now 19 wks pregnant with #2 from embryo from same batch. I credit the advice I received on this forum both from members and from experts, my infertility doctor and my push for the estrogen priming protocol for the family that I have today. FertilitySmarts Inc. -
As a result, most fertility doctors shoot to retrieve 15 to 20 mature eggs per cycle. A gonadotropin-releasing antagonist hormone (GnRH-ant) is used to stop the ovaries from releasing the matured eggs and allows time for additional maturation until eggs are retrieved for fertilization. Estrogen Priming is completely different, so therefore without birth control pill.I would ask your doctor, but I guess you just do nothing while preparing for the cycle. Our usual regimen is similar to those proposed below: hysteroscopy, prolonged estrogen priming, Estring for local effects, baby aspirin, vaginal phosphodiesterease inhibitors, pentoxifylline, acupuncture, etc., with admittedly little data to support any of our treatment strategies. Often two other types of drugs are needed to accompany gonadotropin: those that block eggs from maturing and being ovulated before they can be retrieved, and those that help trigger the eggs to mature so they can be retrieved. Whats important to stress here is that just because some low dose approaches drive comparable rates of success to conventional approaches, that doesnt mean all low-or-no dose approaches are effective. Twins & Multiples: Your Tentative Time Table. I used two patches a dayandchanged the patches every third day. IVF#3 September 2009 - cancelled - poor response While the flare protocol does not allow for a Lupron trigger to prevent OHSS, these patients dont have a strong reaction to the gonadotropins (hence their modest egg retrieval numbers) and are seldom at risk to be overstimulated. Weill Cornell Medical Center, Division Chief Group Black's collective includes Essence, The Shade Room and Naturally Curly. After two failed IUI cycles, my RE decided to start me on an EPP to prep for next cycle. Good luck & stay positive!! | Contributor. What to Expect supports Group Black and its mission to increase greater diversity in media voices and media ownership. you are not supposed to TTC on the cycle you will be doing the EPP because of the ganirelix. And I think EPP is the standard at CCRM as well for DOR ladies. Has anyone had any experience with the Estrogen Priming Protocol? The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. mcg/day) and estrogen priming is started [Estradiol patches 50 mg 2X/week and Estradiol Valerate (Progynova) 4 mg, o., bd., which is continued until the human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) trigger day]. You currently have javascript disabled. Good luck! The dr decided to put a halt to the process for that month. I also did human growth on 2 cycles and didn't help a bit. 2nd IVF/ICSI age 42 : Menopur 425; 2 eggs; 2 fertislised; transfer day 5; BFN Thanks! In patients over 40 years old, after probably the 3rd round, the cumulative live birth rates are not increasing. Beta 2093 How it works: It's a two cycle process. You should also label each packet with the variety name, date, and a brief description (e.g. It's possible to pay with credit card or Western Union, but PayPal isn't an option. Sadly, both my hatching blasts were abnormal. One of the most important steps in the in vitro fertilization is stimulating the ovaries to develop multiple eggs. This will be my first IVF round and I w, Hi All, I just had my ER last week: . This is my first time posting and was hoping for some other stories like mine. 14 retrieved, 9 mature, 5 fertilized normally, 2 grew to the 2-cell stage then arrested, 3 did not grow beyond one cell. Group Leaders arent expected to spend any additional time in the community, and are not held to a set schedule. President, ASRM Please re-enable javascript to access full functionality. I'm wondering if, 5/15 Sign up now for your monthly dose of fertility info, experiences, and insight. That data comes from an analysis of over 700,000 IVF cycles run by well-respected investigators at Stanford. I did a low stim ivf (225 menopur & 100 mg clomid) with human growth hormone which is what my fertilty clinic does for women over 40 and poor responders. I know this is old but was your period seriously delayed after estradiol patch? Thanks so much! Gonal f 225, menopur 75. Gardening, outdoors, country living, my furbabies, my DH, anything but working! This is done by administering estrogen, typically via an estrogen patch or an injection, sometimes along with additional Gonadotropin-releasing hormone. As you can see below, success rates dropped. I cannot say if it will be a success yet, as I am currently doing the EPP protocol. This educational content is not medical or diagnostic advice. Associate Director, REI Does anyone have experience with this? I would be doing a low stim protocol with estrogen priming. Search Is a micro-dose lupron protocol considered a low-dose protocol? Many customers have had positive experiences ordering from them, and their customer service has been praised for keeping buyers updated on order status. An FSH drop-down protocol is used to But I also realize I'm not a dr and should probably listen to their advice! Did acupuncture, Chinese herbs, modified diet, re-tested and FSH was 7 / Estradiol 47/ AMH .4 Has anyone who makes a good amount of eggs used this protocol? I am, Hi Ladies! I am 38. :-/. I understand the idea for the patch is to help time the growth of follicles vs. increase the number? However, the study has two major shortcomings and for that reason most experts arent ready to concede that rates of gonadotropin over 300 IUs per day is harmful. Please specify a reason for deleting this reply from the community. Patients using EPP exhibited similar clinical PRs (21.5% vs. 21.4%) and live birth rates (15.0% vs. 15.3%) per started cycle. Natural cycle is no meds to stim so u get 1 egg at best. All rights reserved. Thanks! E2 level 96.4. Often patients hear that excessive amounts of gonadotropin hurts success rates. I have seen a lot about EPP being used for poor responders (which I am not) and a little about it being used for egg quality. This is the most commonly used protocol whose primary features are a shorter duration of injections and a far lower rate of OHSS, thanks to the ability to use Lupron as a trigger. Male factor, probably DOR and I am a poor responder to IVF drugs It's a sort of "slow burn" methodology the hope being that they slow you way down and protect egg quality while allowing you to stim longer. Is known to improve the response i did that back in the beginning of the essence whatever. 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